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Makes sense. Thanks for your clarification 🙏

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Holo

This is certain. But I believe the HPs are being used lightly at the moment.
But even at idle, we as alpha members we make 10k HF, this means that is absolutely worth keeping the device on and active in the Alpha program

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Holo

the screenshot above shows the power consumption of the HP in the month of july, when I had it running all the days (In august and Semptember I had some issues)
10,15 KWh per month is the total consumption.
this means that if it costs 0,20€ per KWh, the price will be 2€.

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There are also system costs to add. I mean the fixed costs of your electricity operator. But system costs are always there, even if you don't have HoloPort. I'm obviously thinking about the cost of 1 kWh in Italy right now, around 0.10/0.11 Eur/kWh (energy component only). Then it's obvious that each operator has its own offers (there's the most convenient and the least convenient). So if a HoloPort consumes around 60 Wh = around 40/45 kWh/month. But one thing needs to be said. The consumption of 60 Wh is the declared nominal consumption. Usually the actual consumption is even lower (this applies to all electrical appliances)

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Holo

@pixelaaa

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Holo

I did consider an official warning. 🧐
That seemed a little extreme given I considered that it could have been a laugh at the situation instead of another gripe.

Not familiar with your participation here so I didn’t want to be the one who was the jerk. 😚

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Holo

An HP consumes about $5/month to operate (depending on the price of energy where you live)

To give you a comparison, in Italy a pack of cigarettes costs on average 5 or 6 euros (you usually consume a pack of cigarettes in one day)

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Holo

Better to have holoport or pc on than off. Computers are supposed to be used. Not stored for long times. It can cause problems.

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Holo

I too understand it was probably banter. In a smaller closed group I wouldn’t have made my comment. There will be new people and probably still complainers here. So I see those kinds of comments as Troll Food.

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Holo

As far as I know the tests are done in the alpha program HPs. But leaving your HP on (at your discretion and not required at this time if you are not in the program) can give the TEAM (if they want to see) an overview of all online and registered HPs, regardless of your console version.
I tell you what. Since I've had my HP it has always been on, even before the alpha program. In the end it's not a big monthly electricity expense and it seemed like a way to collaborate, for whatever it takes 🙏

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Holo

To be honest, neither do I 🤔

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Holo

Real artists deliver ~ Steve Jobs

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Holo

How did that go down at T2049??

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Token2049 might be over, but we’re still buzzing with the @hello_volla P2P chat demo! Secure data, trusted cryptography, Holochain in your hand, and the cloud in your pocket.

Big times ahead!

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Holo

Is there a Launch Brief scheduled for this month?

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As I was saying the maximum power absorbed by a HP is about 60W in an hour (I don't remember the exact figure). This is the maximum at maximum working capacity. So it's easy to calculate the maximum expense for a month (based on the cost of energy in the place where we live)🙏

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Holo

I would assume that the hps are currently mostly idle. Or am I mistaken? Wouldn’t the power consumption increase significantly if the hps are utilized at capacity?

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Holo

Im talking about a 20x packet of marlboro red 🤣

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Holo

Damn that this is still possible in the eu. In the netherlands its 12,5 euro. And last summer i paid £25 in london

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Holo

Yes i heard back from the team and this was the issue. All resolved now. Thanks

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Holo

Reason why they keep servers on always to avoid hdd failure. Pc and holoport has the same risk as servers.

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Holo

Yes. If I have a HoloPort registered to the network, whether it’s in alpha or not, I would keep it on. But I also understand people who don’t want to pay about 5 euros a month in electricity to keep it running. As I said, if you’re not in alpha you don’t have to keep it online. It’s your discretion. It depends on your view of the facts 🤷

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Holo

I get it. I can’t imagine doing what you guys are doing. The constant crap over and over. If I was you I would have banned me by now 😂

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Don't worry. I know you made your humorous joke. But people here are not all like you. So you know... one thing, then another funny thing, then another satirical thing.... and it goes too far. Don't worry. I just wanted to underline in general the opinion of @LifeSMyth (which I share) 👍💪🙏

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It’s banter guys, relax. It’s been delay after delay for years so I don’t see the harm. Personally I was happy they delayed it. Don’t know if I said it here many months ago, but launch in q4 for me was always a good thing. Been able to fill my bags along the way. Fzappa, not sure you remember, but I also said months ago that I’m going to change my business name to Holo here in the UK. I can confirm this has been done and I’m now trading under Holo Maintenance Ltd 😏 Now if that is not a commitment then I don’t know what is 💪🏼🚀

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Holo

But he was always late too 🤣

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Holo

I actually don’t find that funny guys. 👎🏽

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Holo

https://x.com/Holochain/status/1837540298013983108

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If you are not in alpha program with your holoport, and you leave it on for longer than 1 day, will the holoport be used by the team for test purposes?

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Holo

And then delayed for another decade

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