Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:45

still there for me lol

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:44

something has occurred

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:39

I think I even prefer the way Telegram goes about it, implementing a real requirement over the time span of weeks / months. Meanwhile what put me off the Foobar challenges, was that they were time-limited. The first level, which I completed, was limited to 24 hours. I remember wasting half of it, because I had assumed Google to have moved on from Python 2.7 and Java 8... Ahh, how naïve 🫠

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:31

it's possible he is hired by telegram but not sure

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:28

Oh that makes sense! I guess their contributions are results from that project then?

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:19

Ooh okay, fair enough! Any idea who 23rd might be here?

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:17

Sure you can, here it is: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/graphs/contributors

There are 3 major contributors, which are John Preston, 23rd is Aokromes I think, and ilya-fedin wears a funny hat. The others seem to be one-time contributors, presumably from pull requests? I haven't looked further than the fourth contributor auchri's commits here, but it seems close enough.

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 21:09

At my dayjob, I gotta deal with a lot of idiots or idiotic behavior. And even though that's what I think, I don't need to dump on them or insult them in front of others.

I can criticize them, talk to them about the things I want changed or things I don't like and at the same time be respectful to them without resorting to offensive language.

Honestly, that's all I am asking for.

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 21:02

Perhaps the option to agree doesn't need multiple variants as that's what is claimed officially

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:59

And this was not the first time Dan was standing out. I'll happily link just this nice statement:

/channel/TelegramDesktopTalk/136949

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:52

The poll is deleted due to bad vibes?

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:51

/channel/TelegramAndroidTalk/374051

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:48

Not for contributions, not for forks

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:46

The GPL/ToS conflict sounds interesting indeed

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:42

Third item sounds like a joke

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:45

Yeah I saw the notification too.. it's gone now, but something about results I think? It was literally just a split second

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:39

/channel/contest if you wanna see all of those

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:34

Would be reasonable to consider at least yeah... Reminds me of a challenge I saw on Durov's channel not too long ago, implement a given mock-up and the best one gets the job. Quite an interesting way to hire developers, I'd only seen it at Google with their Foobar challenges before. Didn't do the challenge myself, but I do like it!

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:29

or some issues fixing / implementing feature requests

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:26

the author of forkgram

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 23:18

no, i am not contributor

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 21:45

Software free ≠ Open Source

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 21:05

It's not a single item that's wrong. It's the general tone of the poll. Wasn't it enough to create a poll with 2 options?

Is Telegram Open Source
- Yes, the client side / frontend
- No, most features are implemented on the server side that is close dsource

Did it really need four options to disagree with the question? And did the statements need to contain stuff like "making a joke of" "shit tons of TOS", "lies about xyz"?

That's not criticism, it's just someone that's frustrated with Telegram and wants to vent. And no, this is not the right place to do that. The second sentence in the group's description is "Please be nice".

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 21:01

Personally I don't see anything bad in this poll except of the weird third item

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:58

The poll contained one option to agree and four flavors to disagree. I invite you to start a proper discussion on the topic. Not just taking one dump after the other.

I will gladly say this again: I don't care about criticism. Criticize Telegram as much as you want all day long. But I do care about the tone of discussions in our chat.

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:51

dan is ghostzov/jake

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:50

lol, my poll got deleted. that's fine. people telling me i bring negative vibes. so i rather be careful to criticize telegram from this point!

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:47

But as far as I heard, the only reason the code is open is for security reviews

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:42

How something could have reproducible builds (as in verifying by anyone) while not being open source

Telegram Desktop Talk

10 July 2025 20:39

Nothing has changed in the last 5 years, clients are open source, server isn't